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Some of my Hommies up north

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[drdx]

Well, as usual, great gates. I heard 085 (channel 11, aka the "railroad tracks") mentioned. You guys had some clear stuff their, always a pleasure to hear. My only question was about the attenuator. You mention having it on, then off, and when it is on, according to the gates, the signals are stronger. Attenuators lessen the signal. Is it backwards on that 101 as far as the switch language? I've had 101's in the past and cant remember if they had attenuators or not but when the attenuator is on the signal is typically weaker by a set amount of db, and when it's off the signal is full tilt. Were you running maybe a preamp on there? Maybe I'VE got it backwards on the gate. It sounded kinda odd. You mentioned "you may like it better with it on", and then they got weaker on the next part.

Another funny note you may find flattering and may not have noticed. On the first gate, the operator has your "sound". He has that slide of voice, and I think even says "cottonpicka". He sounds like a white guy on a stock mic, I think his handle is rubicon exlax or something. His signal is superb but the audio could be more, and I think he was concerned about copy as he was talking loud like my grandparents used to when they were talking "long distance" on the phone, as if yelling into the thing made things better, and he kept repeating himself about your 500z's and something else I can't remember. I see no need in repeating if you're a confident operator and know that you're throttling needles without question, but each to his own. Say it once, with authority, and move on. That dude could have whispered once and been done. We have that phenomenon here, guys repeating themselves within the same transmission. I guess they don't have anything fresh to say or maybe think the original phrase got caught in the fade, who knows. You know that even for the casual gate surfer that you're known, I find it funny that he has adopted your sound. Is that a NW/NorCal/West coast sound that maybe we don't hear on the air or do you think it is more unique to you? You have a great sound on the gates, I was just wondering.


-drdx

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i did a mod to the attenuator that a buddy sent me.... it don't work on ssb anymore but i dont use ssb.... 2 of the gates were on the tracks my hommie wanted a gate but he was geting cut off on the bowl so he asked if i would go to the tracks... the 250 gate was on the bowl... NWC is Washington State.... i my self don't like to yell in the mic i like smooth audio......Here on the westcoast we are pushing the AUDIO LIMITS.....

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Well, as usual, great gates. I heard 085 (channel 11, aka the "railroad tracks") mentioned. You guys had some clear stuff their, always a pleasure to hear. My only question was about the attenuator. You mention having it on, then off, and when it is on, according to the gates, the signals are stronger. Attenuators lessen the signal. Is it backwards on that 101 as far as the switch language? I've had 101's in the past and cant remember if they had attenuators or not but when the attenuator is on the signal is typically weaker by a set amount of db, and when it's off the signal is full tilt. Were you running maybe a preamp on there? Maybe I'VE got it backwards on the gate. It sounded kinda odd. You mentioned "you may like it better with it on", and then they got weaker on the next part.

Another funny note you may find flattering and may not have noticed. On the first gate, the operator has your "sound". He has that slide of voice, and I think even says "cottonpicka". He sounds like a white guy on a stock mic, I think his handle is rubicon exlax or something. His signal is superb but the audio could be more, and I think he was concerned about copy as he was talking loud like my grandparents used to when they were talking "long distance" on the phone, as if yelling into the thing made things better, and he kept repeating himself about your 500z's and something else I can't remember. I see no need in repeating if you're a confident operator and know that you're throttling needles without question, but each to his own. Say it once, with authority, and move on. That dude could have whispered once and been done. We have that phenomenon here, guys repeating themselves within the same transmission. I guess they don't have anything fresh to say or maybe think the original phrase got caught in the fade, who knows. You know that even for the casual gate surfer that you're known, I find it funny that he has adopted your sound. Is that a NW/NorCal/West coast sound that maybe we don't hear on the air or do you think it is more unique to you? You have a great sound on the gates, I was just wondering.


-drdx

First of all constructive critisism is welcomed, lame comments are a CLASSIC DUCk move.
4040 caught me testing and tuning on 11 not on the bowl.
Notice how I said I was going for numbers not audio quality. Pay attention what what I was talking about.
Listen to me talk on the bowl, different sound completely.
If you want to run with the big dogs and continue to be a big dog you have to try new and different things to stay towards the top.
Then you comment on my style? Who the hell are you to tell me how I should talk or shouldnt talk.
Where is a gate of you?
Show me how YOU sound.
Point made, Your just upset not only cant you get called on the bowl, you cant hold a convo.
DUCK

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One last comment.
If I ever hear you in DX on the bowl, I will key on your station every single time.
Dont mess with the DOGS or youll get bit.

[626]

HAHAHA,

I have talked to Rubicon in Dx land several times I got to say man he sounds pretty durn good. Not only that, people are lining up to make contact with him. When the NWC goes big he stills comes through. Im not sure how far he is from me but, it must be about 800 miles.

GUNNY

[drdx]

Well, as usual, great gates. I heard 085 (channel 11, aka the "railroad tracks") mentioned. You guys had some clear stuff their, always a pleasure to hear. My only question was about the attenuator. You mention having it on, then off, and when it is on, according to the gates, the signals are stronger. Attenuators lessen the signal. Is it backwards on that 101 as far as the switch language? I've had 101's in the past and cant remember if they had attenuators or not but when the attenuator is on the signal is typically weaker by a set amount of db, and when it's off the signal is full tilt. Were you running maybe a preamp on there? Maybe I'VE got it backwards on the gate. It sounded kinda odd. You mentioned "you may like it better with it on", and then they got weaker on the next part.

Another funny note you may find flattering and may not have noticed. On the first gate, the operator has your "sound". He has that slide of voice, and I think even says "cottonpicka". He sounds like a white guy on a stock mic, I think his handle is rubicon exlax or something. His signal is superb but the audio could be more, and I think he was concerned about copy as he was talking loud like my grandparents used to when they were talking "long distance" on the phone, as if yelling into the thing made things better, and he kept repeating himself about your 500z's and something else I can't remember. I see no need in repeating if you're a confident operator and know that you're throttling needles without question, but each to his own. Say it once, with authority, and move on. That dude could have whispered once and been done. We have that phenomenon here, guys repeating themselves within the same transmission. I guess they don't have anything fresh to say or maybe think the original phrase got caught in the fade, who knows. You know that even for the casual gate surfer that you're known, I find it funny that he has adopted your sound. Is that a NW/NorCal/West coast sound that maybe we don't hear on the air or do you think it is more unique to you? You have a great sound on the gates, I was just wondering.


-drdx

First of all constructive critisism is welcomed, lame comments are a CLASSIC DUCk move.
4040 caught me testing and tuning on 11 not on the bowl.
Notice how I said I was going for numbers not audio quality. Pay attention what what I was talking about.
Listen to me talk on the bowl, different sound completely.
If you want to run with the big dogs and continue to be a big dog you have to try new and different things to stay towards the top.
Then you comment on my style? Who the hell are you to tell me how I should talk or shouldnt talk.
Where is a gate of you?
Show me how YOU sound.
Point made, Your just upset not only cant you get called on the bowl, you cant hold a convo.
DUCK

Wow, if I'd have known the sensitivity was there I'd have passed on commenting. I didn't realize that this topic was limited to people that had gates, was a big dog, and was qualified to comment. I guess I should have posted this: "Man, I just listened to the gate and man you had my ears pinned back cottonpicka. I plan to immediately invoice for payment via mail as your signal that I recieved has damaged my signal meter and I expect full reimbursement. I always thought that the sound of my first born child, my first recollection of hearing my favorite beatles song, the voice of Neil Armstrong during the lunar landing, and the sound of linx's voice on the phone for the first time would be my life's audible highlights, but finally hearing your voice (keeping in mind I didn't know you existed) TOTALLY TRUMPS any of those experiences."

If that was just you tuning then I understand if it was a little less than stellar. I was just calling it as I heard it. Am I an expert? No. Who is? If you didn't want any input maybe you should have told 4040 not to post it, or maybe he shouldn't have posted it. He "caught you"?? I never heard you say "don't record this, don't record this, please!" I've never claimed to be a big dog. In fact, one of my posts mentions that I'm a card carrying card of the low power tribe. The only gates I know of that have me on them are maybe from Skyhawk and Streetsweeper, posted on another forum, but I assure you I wasn't yelling like it was "lawng disstance". Style wise, what good is style without any input? Regardless of your sound, the words, rhythm of signal and overall audible signature just sounded like 4040, and that's not a bad thing. I commented to find out if that's a west coast deal or something more smaller geographically. If anyone, including me, ever got "upset" over this hobby then I'd think they were too involved in the hobby. I have fun whenever I'm on and I hope you do too.

You posted about style. I don't think I ever said "style". I said "sound", meaning your audio. I actually complemented you on that, and that comment would also apply to your signal. I said that as opposed to repeating yourself that you could have whispered. Is that a complement or what? In fact, I mentioned that you could have whispered once and been done. A complement is a complement, so please take it in stride. Style is much more and you should know that. Style would be keying cadence, listening, frequency slide manners (like the 2kc sliders that "pull in" contacts on 27 .027 or 023, I hear them running on both sides).

I never mentioned how anyone, you included, should or shouldn't talk. It's your radio and if you want to yell at it that's your business. It is of no consequence to me. I don't remember hearing you on the air here in Texas. I'm not mobile often but I do office at home and I'm listening, in front of my receiver, on 27.025, with great regularity, and I've never heard you here, but that means nothing unless you've been on 20 years or something. Maybe you haven't been on since the last cycle and so we haven't had conditions to hear you here. I listen way more than I talk, as I find it easier to learn listening than when I'm talking.

Classic Duck? I'm not sure what that is. I've been on the radio, at least in my area, and that was not long ago, snce March of 83 or so with a real setup, and I'd never heard the term duck before about 1990. In fact it was duck, mudduck, but never classic duck. I'm guessing you are indicating that I'm of the lower end of the power scene in cb. I am. I'm mobile only. I'm low drive, 16 pills, one antenna drive around, 3 elements in the park on Sundays, and that's it. You mentioned that you were going for numbers, and not audio quality. Isn't that what the bowl is all about. Sure, if you can have both, fine, but if they can't hear you then you're not in the game. I commend anyone going for numbers if they feel they need to be a big player on the bowl. I'd rather be yelling, muffled, or whatever other ugly quality you can have in a signal and be heard than being of AM STEREO quality and never getting heard. Isn't the bowl about being heard, "all power", and that the audio part is just icing on the cake, if you're heard? You may sound great but if the ERP isn't there, then you may as well be on a 1 watt radio with a talkback because you're only talking to YOU.

Judging by the name, unless the rubicon part was a name change, you've probably been around this hobby for only a decade or so. If I'm wrong, let me know, maybe my rubicon knowledge is off or you changed handles. I welcome newer operators to the scene as we need them to carry on, and to me if you're of 10 years or less in the hobby then you're able to still say you're a new operator. The term Rubicon is popular as a jeep trail and the term Rubicon express is a company that makes jeep lift kits and became popular in the late 90's, thus the guess. I know, I'm a jeeper. Maybe you've been around forever. If you have, you're old enough to not get wound up about one post that contains honest observations that took days to generate your excited sounding post. I'm drinking and playing wii over her or I'd have never dedicated this amount of time to this but I'm glad you responded. That's why we call it 2-way communication. Thanks, and good luck out there, I hope to catch you on the air.

By reading this post you approve this massage. Rub away.

-drdx

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DrDx this is a funny gate..... look at me try'n to tell this guy to slow down.... some times when the guys here the gate is roll'n they ge excited ....

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Now that is funny. Man, you sound like a birth coach there. All you were lacking was the "hee hee hee hoo" and knowing how much he was dilated and you guys could have delivered twins. I do know folks get excited and I think that's great. If I witness a fade on receive, I try to match that fade and stay on the key long enough to maybe ride the rhythm of it to where I get heard at one end or the other. In that case, I will repeat my numbers on each end most likely unless I'm already engaged in a conversation, as I like to talk more than just "wavin a hand" 5 second contact. I don't do the hi -fi stuff yet, just me on a d104m6b, but I do talk for a living over a mic everyday so I think I have a nice clear universal sound voice wise. I have to, I'm teaching people all over and a true Texas accent would leave them clueless.

This topic does bring in a question to me. I'm here in North Texas and for a number of years during high points in the cycle I ran a 4 element beam at 40 feet in a high location. I know, nothing special, but it worked well. Early in the day back then the skip would basically "rotate" counterclockwise on the map. Early I'd have skip to the east/southeast which was carribean, and south african stuff, then the east us and europe in the good years, then the northeast. It seemed to rotate around and I'd follow it with my beam all the way around to California. Now that pattern included a sweep from due north of me to the west and I always had gaps in states like Montana, Idaho, Washington State, and Oregon where I didn't have much activity. I've witnessed an absence of those states for years with the rare exception of some NWC stuff and of course I understandibly hear Prime, but all he needs is marginal conditions to make it happen. We used to get POUNDED with guys out of California like Bandito (in Escondido maybe?) and Red Rooster, like we had a pipeline or something. I think there is something with conditions that prohibits decent contacts from me to those gap states I mentioned. I've talked to Japan and Alaska, both in that general direction, more than in those states, which I find odd. Don't get me wrong, we still had from time to time the coast to coast slugfests hearing both but the stronger stuff had that common pattern. I'm sure that those that run a beam possibly see the same phenomenon in different forms globally.

Happy Father's day all.

-drdx