i need help with a no see antenna

[209 first class]

honestly if he already knows u are doing it, he will be watching you ! question,,,,, did he cut down your antennas because you were coming thru his tv or because antennas are not allowed, or he just doesnt like how they look ? i can see him telling you you need to take them down, but did he actually cut them down and ruin them? (warpath lol) i hid mine (antron99) by spraypainting it black, putting a pulley high in a tree, with a rope, and 2-10 foot sections of mast(with stainless bolts) with a 10 lb barbell for counterbalance. i hoist it up, i got 5 feet of mast above the pulley. looks like a dead stick at the top of the tree. some guys do an antron in the attic. i used to live in a crack neighboorhood on the 3rd floor. people would cut my coax to the antron on my porch when i was at work. so, i put the friggin thing in the kitchen, at almost a 45 degree angle with the tip section bending to fit in the room, and it worked fine. later i cut the antenna off above the matching network, and used thick copper wire to make the element instead of the white fiberglass, looked nicer. please be aware i was single with no wife acceptance factor i hope other will chime in too with ideas. 209 massachusetts

[Red Warrior]

Do you have access to the roof? Build yourself a wire loop antenna.

Get 36 feet of #14 copper wire and some glass insulators. String up the wire so it clears the roof (does not touch anything) using the insulators. Does not have to be a perfect circle but try for as close as possible. Run a piece of coax to the ends of the loop and solder or use a spade lug mount. Shorten the loop wire until SWR is where you want it. These antennas are all but invisible and are good performers. They tend to be "cloud burners" and are very quiet (very low noise). Make sure no one can easily touch the wire while you are transmitting.

[Night Crawler]

Build yourself a wire loop antenna.

That's a good antenna.
For 11 meters it's only about 9 feet each side if made in a square but it can be made into a rectangle, circle, triangle whatever fits. It's omni-directional and horizontally polarized if you lay it flat. I used one in an apartment on the second floor where I was unable to put an antenna outdoors. I use #16 speaker wire that I pinned to the ceiling of the living room. It worked fairly well was able to talk to all the locals and even worked some skip with it but I'm sure it would of worked alot better if it was outdoors or even in the attic.
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[doctor]

I have a loop outside at 20 feet works like a champ for skip, not real hot for locals but good enough.

Another idea, build your loop take it to your window looking outside<bedroom> and tack it around the window, it will work that way to but a bit directional.


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[De_Wildfire]

ok guy this is the long and short of things i want to set up a base but i have a really a**hole for a land lord he has already cut down and taken two 5/8 set ups i need to find an antenna that i can use to transmit far but can't be seen do they make ones that will lay flat on a roof kinda like wire just layed out on the roof or am i screwed i really want to use my tram titan 2 so please help me with this one boys

Bird feeder antenna.

Check out the link to hidden antennas.

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[Ryder505]

When I lived in Indianapolis, I had a friend and his landlord made him take his antenna down. He took the siding loose on a corner of his 2 story house and hid the antron-99 under the corner trim. It worked pretty good and had a low standing wave. He could talk about 20-25 miles with no problem and even talked skip. He also used to run a texas star dx-250 on a pyramid 20 amp power supply. Only thing he ever bothered was his cordless telephone and his computer speakers. Don't know if you live in a 2 story house or not but maybe that can give you some ideas.