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Re: 10 meter radios- legal?

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Mikey B wrote:I was not refering to you madsage, your chart was very informative. I frequently look at the ARRL's list of frequencies because I think it's neat to see where everyone operates. Sorry to step on peoples toes, but please inform me WHY I or anyone else would need a freq chart when running SSB. I know 10 meter radios are not legal for use on 11 meters, and I know what the FCC says we can and cannot do.

Madsage, I understand YOU would never preach what you can and cannot do, and I am not preaching.
mikey B, i do preach, not non secular mine you, but to insure that my fellow drivers (again) know exactly what they are doing when they leave the AM band. As for your question, WHY would anyone else need frequency charts when running SSB, meaning, unless i am wrong, LSB/USB; then i have to preach, but not to the choir (you guys) but to the goyim, the gullible and the uninformed; right on! let me give U an example: suppose you are a not (ham) licensed, new to trucking just purchased that first radio that has switches galore, am/fm/lsb/usb/cw (country western) and mega watts. your buddy is similarly new and as you, has his cb (same brand) as you. so off you go, traveling the great USA, cussing, fussing, complimenting and criticizing. sometimes you both use that ch19 sometimes you don't; but for peace and quiet, and you both tune into, your favorites like 24.930,28.095, 27.625 or 29.900 etc. you may hear someone complaining or other signals but you don't care, "we bought these radio's and therefore we can do what we like with them". a year or two later, along comes this guy talking on ch19, about ham amateur radio's, band frequencies and being properly licensed. as your curiosity takes over, you decide to go see this person. to make a longer story short, it is at this time that you learn of your mistakes and the possible repercussions if you so continue. you are now given the military, hf and vhf/uhf frequency charts along with other pertinent amateur information. you call your buddy and fax him copies: until the time comes for you both to take your technician test, if that's what you want to do, you now know not to venture to far from the AM band as freely as b4, best to probably just try 27.555 or 27.505 (some ups drivers) or don't push your luck, stay on AM. so you see mikey B, i meet drivers as such, who often times play around with their converted ssb/cb radio, never realizing they were sometimes on restricted bands. hope this answers your wanting to know WHY anyone would need such info. many in the trucking industry don't know the rules and those that do often do not explain them $$$ :r&r:
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Re: 10 meter radios- legal?

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SSB radios are legal on CB and made explicitly for that. There is nothing wrong with SSB (LSB or USB) in the 1-40 CB channels.

The 10 meter radios are the ones which have the "300 channels" you mention. They are not legal for use either in the 1-40 channels regardless. They are not legal in the other bands unless you are licensed.

What these fine folks are trying to tell you is that SSB and "extra channel export radios" are different things altogether. I suggest you look at the differences in AM, SSB, FM, CW, etc. Don't take this the wrong way, we are only trying to help you understand the concepts.
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TaterR wrote:SSB radios are legal on CB and made explicitly for that. There is nothing wrong with SSB (LSB or USB) in the 1-40 CB channels.

The 10 meter radios are the ones which have the "300 channels" you mention. They are not legal for use either in the 1-40 channels regardless. They are not legal in the other bands unless you are licensed.

What these fine folks are trying to tell you is that SSB and "extra channel export radios" are different things altogether. I suggest you look at the differences in AM, SSB, FM, CW, etc. Don't take this the wrong way, we are only trying to help you understand the concepts.
let me be clear, as i think there may be some confusion here: first i am specifically addressing the issue of 10meter export radios that are being converted after market by some shops to run 11meter together in one pkg/radio. often, as in the case of the ranger 2950/70's, superstar 158 etc (which i have owned), they are capable of both AM/FM, USB & LSB and getting down into the 24Mhz low to 30Mhz high as you know, and are sold to unlicensed buyers. i am merely sharing information in the general discussions section for those just getting into citizens band radio (primarily truckers like myself). i am not talking about the SSB but more so of the USB/LSB converted radio's and the unlicensed user's responsibility. thank you in pointing out the above differences/concepts, which i am not arguing. :r&r:
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freq N flyer wrote:
TaterR wrote:SSB radios are legal on CB and made explicitly for that. There is nothing wrong with SSB (LSB or USB) in the 1-40 CB channels.

The 10 meter radios are the ones which have the "300 channels" you mention. They are not legal for use either in the 1-40 channels regardless. They are not legal in the other bands unless you are licensed.

What these fine folks are trying to tell you is that SSB and "extra channel export radios" are different things altogether. I suggest you look at the differences in AM, SSB, FM, CW, etc. Don't take this the wrong way, we are only trying to help you understand the concepts.
let me be clear, as i think there may be some confusion here: first i am specifically addressing the issue of 10meter export radios that are being converted after market by some shops to run 11meter together in one pkg/radio. often, as in the case of the ranger 2950/70's, superstar 158 etc (which i have owned), they are capable of both AM/FM, USB & LSB and getting down into the 24Mhz low to 30Mhz high as you know, and are sold to unlicensed buyers. i am merely sharing information in the general discussions section for those just getting into citizens band radio (primarily truckers like myself). i am not talking about the SSB but more so of the USB/LSB converted radio's and the unlicensed user's responsibility. thank you in pointing out the above differences/concepts, which i am not arguing. :r&r:
[Please login or register to view this link] Read this. SSB (single sideband) IS USB (upper sideband) and LSB (lower sideband). USB/LSB ARE NOT "upper and lower extra channels." Just humor me and read the whole thing.

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guys this is going no where fast im locking it till the other admin and moderators have a chance to look at it and review it to see what to do
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First off I read a few of these memos and there was one guy that said if you’re running that 966 radio and upgraded radio won’t really be much better that being said I wouldn’t buy a radio with the amp built-in it only because it’ll get very hot you don’t want heat inside of Electronics if you can help it so by a separate amp hook it up and don’t put it where your radio is on the dash make sure the fills can get air across them and you’ll be fine you probably would do well with somewheres between a 200 and 500 W which won’t require very large wire probably 10 gauge or so to go to the battery directly and make sure your fuse it at the battery
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Why not just do it right and get a license its not hard your CDL was probably harder and I doubt any truckers wouldnot hesitate to sway people away from driving without a CDL.
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BushHog wrote: Sep 21 2009, 18:50 guys this is going no where fast im locking it till the other admin and moderators have a chance to look at it and review it to see what to do
Hmm, this is an old thread, I glanced at a few posts and it seemed to get of track so I think that is why BushHog locked it. Since it has started back up (no clue how it got unlocked), lets post about what the title refers to.

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Turnpike wrote: Aug 23 2009, 23:20 For the last several years i have been using a tr966 in the big rig. But now i'm hungry for more power.
I would like a 10 meter radio but don't want to pay the fines. Does anyone ever heard of truckers getting busted for having a 10 meter?
This was the start of the original topic.

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i was reading this whole long thread and wow , nobody mentioned the 150 mile rule,,, so being the exspurt, i always make sure my signal stops a few feet short.
and no, i have not heard of any truckers getting busted for 10 meter radio usage.
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443 Arizona wrote: Jul 08 2021, 06:44 i was reading this whole long thread and wow , nobody mentioned the 150 mile rule,,, so being the exspurt, i always make sure my signal stops a few feet short.
and no, i have not heard of any truckers getting busted for 10 meter radio usage.
I don't think there is a distance rule anymore but you can check to,

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I do a lot of 10m local, have a few nets in the tech portion (28.300 to 28.500), I don't ever hear any truckers using it as their antennas probably aren't tuned to go that high.

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