50ft. push up pole?'s

[Peanut]

Hello all, my current base setup utilizes a 20ft. pole strapped to the eave of the house with my antron up top. I want to get my antenna higher so I thought about purchasing a 50ft. push up pole. It will be attatched to the eave of the house just like my current pole. My question is, do I need to run guy wires to the pole even though its strapped to the house? Thanks in advanced!

[JerryH]

Using a little common sense, I would definitely use guide wires on anything that was 10 higher than the roof of a house. It depends on many factors...

- how deep is the pole in the ground and is it just sunk into soil or cemented in place?

- how strong is the roof level connection? If it's just a strap with a couple of screws... well that is not something that will last long before the wood around the screws softens and starts to rot. Figure a couple years of some strength and after that... it will pull out and topple with a nice breeze.

- Your location... if you live in Chicago or places anywhere near "Tornado Alley", well you need to take a LOT more precautions than if you live up in places like Canada, where tornados near never show and all you need to contend with are good snow storms and strong (but not brutal) winds.

In cases like this, its always better to err on the side of caution. Better to be too safe, than sorry.

[PA629]

You're going to want to use guys with that kind of height, preferably non-metallic. Over the years I've seen too many of them snap due to wind loads. Just my $.02.

[lonewolf]

Where do you find push up poles cant seem to locate any around here.

[DaveinKC]

Try this:
http://www.smc-comms.com

[DaveinKC]

Well sorry lonewolf, I just checked that site I sent you. They used to have one or two dealers here in the US. It appears they don't anymore.

[Peanut]

I found them at R&L Electronics. They have all kinds of lengths. Thanks guys for the responses, I am pointed in the right direction now, THANKS!!

[lonewolf]

Thanks i will try r&l electronics.

[doctor]

Use guide wires most definitely, and I wouldn't strap it to the house a big wind comes along it will sway that pole and rip it away on the mounts, they have a good sway factor in the wind. I have my antenna on a 30 foot pole and guided , it is plenty of height, it is bracketed against a fence post which you can get at a farm store or home depot, get the long metal one, then strap your push up pole against it, the set up I have holds in some t-storm winds and little sway...

73

DOCTOR

[Visegrip]

I have my amtron on a 50 ft push pole. Its about 4 ft in the ground and cemented. I have 3 guide wires going to the ground.
Just before my pole clears the plain of my shop i have it mounted with a 1/4 in. plate.
Not to brag on my handy work (AHEM) but it survived hurricane Katrina.

Still standing in the bayou country

[Big B]

When did GUY wires become GUIDE wires?? It's the little things that P*** me off. :<) BTW, the person that asked about securing the push-up to the house along with running guy wires, go ahead. If the wind gets high enough to rip the mount loose from the eave of the house, your antenna will be the LEAST of your worries!!

[Peanut]

Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it. Gonna get some guy wires and do it right.